[കേ.ശാ.സാ.പ] Re: KSSP- Debate

Dear Thomas,

I just had a quick view of your mail, will go through it and get back ASAP.
Before that, just few points.

I am not the Arun who was at IRTC. I have come to IRTC two times.
Probably we have not met.
But, absolutely no problem for this comment from you. I welcome it.

I never meant that we were wasting time at Kalajatha. I meant that most of
us travelled with the Jatha
from one place to another and became a significant audience.

I am not disillusioned. If my mail communicated disillusion, it is the
problem with my writing.

I generally agree with you on the observations, except for the following .

" while the organisations or the ideology they stand for are not at all
proved false. They cannot be
blamed for misleading us as well."

I totally agree with you that we all shall have dielectical logic. I am
trying, and will keep on trying.

Sasneham
Arun

On 4/16/07, thomas joseph <thomasatps_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Arun and others,
>
> Since this discussion forum is named after KSSP, I presume, this Arun
> is the one who was at IRTC, whom I know and being met occassionally.
> Hence, I dare this comment. Ignore, if I am wrong.
>
> One fails to understand the sentiments arising out of dissatisfaction
> or disillusionment out of the present day situation, in which the left
> movement is fitted in. One cannot blame any one individual or group
> or organisation for the same. Generally, it seems every body blames
> the left movement or the predominant organisation for all that has
> happened in the past. To me, the organisation or organisations are the
> collective manifestation of the masses. To blame one group or
> organisation is just shirking our responsibility.
>
> Aruns, self criticism, or is it self realisation, that you were
> wasting the time by conducting 'Kala jathas'
> is an opinion coming out of frustration. Is the situation out of
> control, to be so much frustrated.
>
> In my opinion, the present day predicament of the vast majority is the
> result of the resalisation that their belief, nurtured so far, have
> been proved wrong. It is the belief and not the reality, i mention.
> Now, the predominant organisations, the left movement as a whole is
> being blamed for the disillusionment, while the organisations or the
> ideology they stand for are not at all proved false. They cannot be
> blamed for misleading us as well. Because, the left movement and the
> ideology they base upon clearly tells us to view every phenomena and
> developments in a dialectical perspective, while by and large we have
> been nursing the ideas in a formal logical perspective.
>
> Let me make it short. We are on one part advocate scientific approach.
> How many of us are scientific in our daily life. We want democracy and
> socialism. There cannot be democracy without socialism or the other
> way. How many of us are democrats ? How many of us are socialists.
>
> Democracy doesnot only mean that our ideas are honoured by all. One
> has to honour the ideas of others as well. Socialism doesnot only mean
> that we shall have equal opportunity with any one of the society. One
> has to agree and work for equal opportunities for one and all of the
> society, without which we cannot bring in socialism.
> But here we find the workers and their unions fight for their rights,
> while they forget the society. Yes, it is true that they fight for
> their existance. But at the same time they have to realise that their
> ultimate aim is not this fight which is ensured only by the continued
> existance of the present system and its dominant force, the capital.
> The workers and their organisations opposed introduction of any new
> technology (Including computerisation) in the past with a view to
> ensure their existance. It was well within their rights. But they
> forgot to address the issues arising out of it, out of the fight and
> the resultant situation. Now they are alienated from any thing that is
> modern. The workers should have realised that what they are fighting
> against is the policy of the dominant forces to use the technology
> against us, the workers and the poor. It should have been well
> understood that we shall be empowered ourselves with all that is new
> and modern, including technology. Had, the technology been of no power
> or effect, we neednot have opposed it.
>
> What I feel is all of us have been led by the formal logic. Should
> have dielectical logic.
>
> Since, led by formal logic, we entrenched ourselves in the fight,
> unmindful of what the other side is doing. We failed to address the
> issues of our own empowerment. It iis cent percent correct to oppose
> the adversary in using the weapon against us. That doesnot mean that
> we should not use the same weapon to our advantage.
>
> This approach will definitely clear our misunderstanding on almost all
> the current issues, including that of the modern IT, ADB loan or
> Nandigram or what ever it is.
>
> Dear comrade, dont be so disillusioned.
>
> We, the working class, never go wrong. We, the individuals may go
> wrong. A group may go wrong. An organisation may go wrong. But not the
> movement.
>
> It is pretty long already.
>
> Joseph Thomas.
>
>
>

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Received on തി �പ�ര 16 2007 - 22:12:57 IST